GP Hardy

Bollock-numbingly addictive, but a bit crap unless there's a modicum of
co-operation. The maps seem huge considering the 24 or 32 player limits- are
there any clans or servers where newbs can learn the ropes?

Peter Lykkegaard

"GP Hardy" wrote

> Bollock-numbingly addictive, but a bit crap unless there's a modicum of
> co-operation. The maps seem huge considering the 24 or 32 player limits-
> are there any clans or servers where newbs can learn the ropes?
Look for servers with instant respawn, the gameplay are usually not that
serious on those
Not playing atm due to my current laptop is a bit limited when it comes
fluent graphics

- Peter

GP Hardy

"Peter Lykkegaard" wrote...

> Look for servers with instant respawn, the gameplay are usually not that
> serious on those

Thanks (& thanks to Stri, too)

That's just the problem- I can see the attraction of TF2 being the
intelligence mix and interaction of the different classes (I used to play
D&D when I was a kid!), but the non-serious servers where beginners can last
more than a minute are just a frag-fest with no attempts to actually
achieving the map goal.

It would be a bit more acceptable is FF was on- not sure if that's
practical, though.

Peter Lykkegaard

"GP Hardy" wrote

> That's just the problem- I can see the attraction of TF2 being the
> intelligence mix and interaction of the different classes (I used to play
> D&D when I was a kid!), but the non-serious servers where beginners can
> last more than a minute are just a frag-fest with no attempts to actually
> achieving the map goal.

Hmm check the payload maps then? (prefixed with pl_)
There's a very distinct goal with attack/defense

Also capture point are somewhat decent (imo) but the capture intelligence
maps tends to be a bit chaotic

- Peter

GP Hardy

"Peter Lykkegaard" wrote...

> Hmm check the payload maps then? (prefixed with pl_)
> There's a very distinct goal with attack/defense

Yeah - I was on one of those earlier today. The little train thing was still
sitting at the start when I joined. There was nobody about, so I started
moving it by myself. When I got it to the first checkpoint, there was
suddenly a pile of people attacking, but it seemed to move faster when the
rest of the team came back to help.


> Also capture point are somewhat decent (imo) but the capture intelligence
> maps tends to be a bit chaotic

I find it the other way around- but that's possibly because you need to be
familiar with the whole layout for capture point maps (which I'm not),
whereas the little arrow pair pointing to the two intelligence cases means
anyone can easily navigate the map even if they aren't familiar....

Peter Lykkegaard

"GP Hardy" wrote

> Yeah - I was on one of those earlier today. The little train thing was
> still sitting at the start when I joined. There was nobody about, so I
> started moving it by myself. When I got it to the first checkpoint, there
> was suddenly a pile of people attacking, but it seemed to move faster when
> the rest of the team came back to help.
>
A bit odd as you'll loose the map if the payload is not delivered in due
time

> I find it the other way around- but that's possibly because you need to be
> familiar with the whole layout for capture point maps (which I'm not),
> whereas the little arrow pair pointing to the two intelligence cases means
> anyone can easily navigate the map even if they aren't familiar....
At the end ofo this page you can find layouts for somee of the official maps
http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php#

I have mostly played cp_dustbowl, tc_hydro and pl_goldrush + pl_badwater
dustbowl is pretty obvious as far as the cp's goes and fast played

- Peter

GP Hardy

"Peter Lykkegaard" wrote...

> A bit odd as you'll loose the map if the payload is not delivered in due
> time

The "team" seemed more interested in frags. I've been playing CS:S with my
nine-year-old tonight, and between me, him and our bots, there was more
teamwork than on the TF2 servers I've used earlier today...


> I have mostly played cp_dustbowl, tc_hydro and pl_goldrush + pl_badwater
> dustbowl is pretty obvious as far as the cp's goes and fast played

I've been around hydro for the developer commentary but not played it at
all - it seems huge. Dustbowl and goldrush are faves though (I think
goldrush was the one I was talking about where I pushed the bomb along the
track by myself for a while).

Peter Lykkegaard

"GP Hardy" wrote

> I've been around hydro for the developer commentary but not played it at
> all - it seems huge.

The layout changes for each round
I think hydro has 5 or 6 different layouts with a few twists
On a good server you can play the map all night without getting really bored
Some of the layouts are really good for sniping

> Dustbowl and goldrush are faves though

Capture point maps:
If a little bit of luck you can rush the capture point by using a mix of
pyros and scouts
If out of luck engineers has secured the area ...

Payload maps:
Observe that you get health and ammo when you're pushing the cart
When you reach checkpoints maptime is increased

- Peter

Phat_Jethro aka Jethro[AGHL]

GP Hardy wrote:
> "Peter Lykkegaard" wrote...
>
>> A bit odd as you'll loose the map if the payload is not delivered in
>> due time
>
> The "team" seemed more interested in frags. I've been playing CS:S with
> my nine-year-old tonight, and between me, him and our bots, there was
> more teamwork than on the TF2 servers I've used earlier today...

Be glad you missed the updates that started the "achievements"
capabilities. You couldn't get anyone to do anything as they were all
trying to get their personal achievements.


>
>
>> I have mostly played cp_dustbowl, tc_hydro and pl_goldrush + pl_badwater
>> dustbowl is pretty obvious as far as the cp's goes and fast played
>
> I've been around hydro for the developer commentary but not played it at
> all - it seems huge. Dustbowl and goldrush are faves though (I think
> goldrush was the one I was talking about where I pushed the bomb along
> the track by myself for a while).

Yes Goldrush is push the cart. I always liked Dustbowl. Good teams can
really over run bad. It's a capture the point with the 3 stages.

--
Jethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro
Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com

GP Hardy

"Phat_Jethro aka Jethro[AGHL]" <me@work.now> wrote in message
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> Be glad you missed the updates that started the "achievements"
> capabilities. You couldn't get anyone to do anything as they were all
> trying to get their personal achievements.

No - I've seen the "achievements" because I was so late buying TF2. I've
even got a couple myself! I assumed it was something that's always been part
of the game, so it didn't occur to me that other players might be chasing
them...