gospvg

Xbox 720 to be 6 times more powerful than 360
WiiU to be 2 times more powerful than 360
PS4 ??

Will Apple join the home console format quietly via AppleTV?
Is it wise to release a new console in the current economical climate?

Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
converge tv, movies, music, gaming & internet onto one device?

Like this gen I will happily sit back and wait before deciding what to buy
it took me nearly 3 years after the 360 was released before I purchased
mine.

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Kendrick Kerwin Chua

In article <4f217617$0$2490$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
gospvg <gospvg@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>Xbox 720 to be 6 times more powerful than 360
>WiiU to be 2 times more powerful than 360
>PS4 ??

I was hoping that the mainstream press would be more able to report on the
technology of game systems by now, but they're not. If the 360 successor
is six times more powerful, does that mean I have six times as much fun
playing? It's about the games, not the technology. They keep asking the
wrong questions and taking the press info at face value.

>Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
>converge tv, movies, music, gaming & internet onto one device?

This I hope they don't do. I don't want to be required to rent my Xbox
from the local cable or satellite company, and if I do I don't want to be
locked down only to games that I bought from them. I don't need my waffle
iron also to be a weather radio.

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gospvg

On 26/01/2012 16:11, John Dow wrote:
>
> I think I'm with you on the sitting back tactic. I don't think I actually
> care about any of it. There are enough games out there that I haven't
> played yet to more than fill the available gaming time I have in the next
> ten years
>
Good point the way I'm buying games you would think there is an
apocalypse incoming


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gospvg

On 26/01/2012 16:15, Toby Newman wrote:

>
>> Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
>> converge tv, movies, music, gaming& internet onto one device?
>
> You just described a PS3.

Does it do gaming?



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gospvg

On 26/01/2012 16:30, hurricanepilot wrote:
>
> Whether it is or not, I'd really like it to happen. Nothing consolidates
> a community better than a complete absence of alternatives. My fondest
> memories of the 360 are DOA4 sessions and COD2 sessions with 12 people
> I actually knew, every damned night. Didn't matter what games we played,
> we just played the only one that was out at the time. Nowadays, I can
> look on xbox.com and see all the people I used to play with, all playing
> different stuff or in little groups of two or three playing the same
> games they have for years. It's saddening to see.
>

More choice and all that but I think the PMG's have worked well but to
get 10+ players in a game I think I only managed with Burny P and that
could only take 8.

> I can see me waiting on the next xbox if there's still a cost to play
> online. I'd also be interested to see if Sony eventually expand their
> Plus service to include acces to online gaming. The only time they can
> really do that is on the leap to a new generation and I imagine the
> only thing that would stop them is the feeling that they might not get
> away with it.

I can see sony charging for online, my fear for next gen is the end of a
game released for a single price I'm expecting a lot of games to have
multiple in-app purchases

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gospvg

On 26/01/2012 16:51, Kendrick Kerwin Chua wrote:
>
> This I hope they don't do. I don't want to be required to rent my Xbox
> from the local cable or satellite company, and if I do I don't want to be
> locked down only to games that I bought from them. I don't need my waffle
> iron also to be a weather radio.
>

I want a PS4 that makes toast


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gunthergloop

On 26/01/2012 18:41, gospvg wrote:
> On 26/01/2012 16:30, hurricanepilot wrote:
>>
>> Whether it is or not, I'd really like it to happen. Nothing consolidates
>> a community better than a complete absence of alternatives. My fondest
>> memories of the 360 are DOA4 sessions and COD2 sessions with 12 people
>> I actually knew, every damned night. Didn't matter what games we played,
>> we just played the only one that was out at the time. Nowadays, I can
>> look on xbox.com and see all the people I used to play with, all playing
>> different stuff or in little groups of two or three playing the same
>> games they have for years. It's saddening to see.
>>
>
> More choice and all that but I think the PMG's have worked well but to
> get 10+ players in a game I think I only managed with Burny P and that
> could only take 8.
>
>> I can see me waiting on the next xbox if there's still a cost to play
>> online. I'd also be interested to see if Sony eventually expand their
>> Plus service to include acces to online gaming. The only time they can
>> really do that is on the leap to a new generation and I imagine the
>> only thing that would stop them is the feeling that they might not get
>> away with it.
>
> I can see sony charging for online, my fear for next gen is the end of a
> game released for a single price I'm expecting a lot of games to have
> multiple in-app purchases
>

Funny how I'm not seeing hurricanepilot's, Toby's or John Dow's posts
here on Astraweb, but I do see KKC's -and your replies.

My own thoughts are... 6 times more powerful. What does that mean? It'll
be capable of 6480P? It'll draw 6 times as much power from my socket?

It will be nice to be able to finally come near to current high-end PC
resolutions and lots of sprites onscreen at once -and probably lots more
online players... basically a current high-end PC in a console box.

I have no doubt it'll go well. As long as they keep the price below say
£450 at launch, including Kinect-like features.

Also they need to allow games use 'controller+Kinect' to have people
ducking to avoid onscreen obstacles while they move with the controller,
etc.


-Kevin.

John Dow

gospvg the Monkey was never naughty:
> Xbox 720 to be 6 times more powerful than 360
> WiiU to be 2 times more powerful than 360
> PS4 ??
>
> Will Apple join the home console format quietly via AppleTV?
> Is it wise to release a new console in the current economical climate?
>
> Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
> converge tv, movies, music, gaming & internet onto one device?
>
> Like this gen I will happily sit back and wait before deciding what to buy
> it took me nearly 3 years after the 360 was released before I purchased
> mine.

I think I'm with you on the sitting back tactic. I don't think I actually
care about any of it. There are enough games out there that I haven't
played yet to more than fill the available gaming time I have in the next
ten years

J

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Toby Newman

On 2012-01-26, gospvg <gospvg@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Xbox 720 to be 6 times more powerful than 360
> WiiU to be 2 times more powerful than 360
> PS4 ??

No more polygon clipping, please. Characters who can walk up stairs
properly.

Also, high fi audio in games. The low bitrate audio in supposedly
premium games like Gears of War sounds dreadful.

> Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
> converge tv, movies, music, gaming & internet onto one device?

You just described a PS3.


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hurricanepilot

gospvg wrote:

> Xbox 720 to be 6 times more powerful than 360
> WiiU to be 2 times more powerful than 360
> PS4 ??

I have a feeling Sony are going to release a new handheld soon....just a
hunch..

> Will Apple join the home console format quietly via AppleTV?
> Is it wise to release a new console in the current economical climate?

Whether it is or not, I'd really like it to happen. Nothing consolidates
a community better than a complete absence of alternatives. My fondest
memories of the 360 are DOA4 sessions and COD2 sessions with 12 people
I actually knew, every damned night. Didn't matter what games we played,
we just played the only one that was out at the time. Nowadays, I can
look on xbox.com and see all the people I used to play with, all playing
different stuff or in little groups of two or three playing the same
games they have for years. It's saddening to see.

> Will we see a big graphical leap or will it just be a box that is used to
> converge tv, movies, music, gaming & internet onto one device?

Definitely a graphical leap. I think the services and media
consolidation side of things will continue to trickle out in a way that
straddles the generations.

Personally, I'd be happy with the best of today's IQ at 1080p/60fps,
which should be more than doable and would obviously eradicate the
feeble excuses from developers about the increased cost of videogame
creation forcing them to bumrape us all with £10 console premiums when
the cheaper PC versions actually look way better anyway.

> Like this gen I will happily sit back and wait before deciding what to buy
> it took me nearly 3 years after the 360 was released before I purchased
> mine.

I can see me waiting on the next xbox if there's still a cost to play
online. I'd also be interested to see if Sony eventually expand their
Plus service to include acces to online gaming. The only time they can
really do that is on the leap to a new generation and I imagine the
only thing that would stop them is the feeling that they might not get
away with it.

Thing is, I go through games quickly enough that I'll probably be
hanging out of my pants for a new console by the time they arrive. I see
queueing up at midnight in my future. At least twice.