Toby Newman

On 2011-11-30, Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
> Just a quick question having tried the PS3 Scott Pilgrim trial (a bunch
> of Ubisoft stuff is on sale, this one's about three quid). It looks
> great, and I mostly liked the first level, but the grindy levelling-up
> business is a bit confusing - do you get to save your progress in any
> way? Or at least your level? The trial gives the impression that you
> start completely from scratch each time, which I think would make the
> grindy approach too annoying.

Dekay's answered your question. I just want to jibe in and say it's a
great game with some lovely artwork.

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deKay

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Toby Newman wrote:

> Dekay's answered your question. I just want to jibe in and say it's a
> great game with some lovely artwork.

It's exactly what I wanted in a Street Gangs remake

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Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
> Toby Newman <google@asktoby.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-11-30, Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Just a quick question having tried the PS3 Scott Pilgrim trial (a bunch
>>> of Ubisoft stuff is on sale, this one's about three quid). It looks
>>> great, and I mostly liked the first level, but the grindy levelling-up
>>> business is a bit confusing - do you get to save your progress in any
>>> way? Or at least your level? The trial gives the impression that you
>>> start completely from scratch each time, which I think would make the
>>> grindy approach too annoying.
>>
>> Dekay's answered your question. I just want to jibe in and say it's a
>> great game with some lovely artwork.
>
> Just based on the trial it seems to have nice art, good music, pretty
> decent gameplay - my only other concern was some rather cheap boss
> moves, but apart from that it hardly seems to be putting a foot wrong.
>
> Speaking of that sale, I see Prince of Persia (the sort of cel-shaded
> one from a few years back) is about a fiver and Far Cry 2 and the first
> Assassin's Creed are both at 8 quid. Any of those worth a shot? I'll
> probably be playing AC2 over Christmas so I'm kind of tempted by AC1,
> but I know it has its problems and I vaguely remember there being some
> sort of AC1 bonus with the newest one...
>
> -Rus.

AC1 is good, but nowhere near as good as 2 or Brotherhood. You'll be
wanting to play it before them, for sure.
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Toby Newman

On 2011-11-30, Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
> Speaking of that sale, I see Prince of Persia (the sort of cel-shaded
> one from a few years back) is about a fiver and Far Cry 2 and the first
> Assassin's Creed are both at 8 quid. Any of those worth a shot? I'll
> probably be playing AC2 over Christmas so I'm kind of tempted by AC1,
> but I know it has its problems and I vaguely remember there being some
> sort of AC1 bonus with the newest one...

I hated the cel shaded Prince of Persia. It sits unfinished on my
shelf. I found it turned into a collectathon game where you had to
find X magic balls before it would unlock the next story section.

I loved Far Cry 2, but some bemoam the respaning enemies.
For me, it was just really exciting to be exploring and falling into
combat in the wild and dynamic representation of Africa.

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[ste parker]

On 01/12/2011 22:05, Toby Newman wrote:
>
> I loved Far Cry 2, but some bemoam the respaning enemies.
> For me, it was just really exciting to be exploring and falling into
> combat in the wild and dynamic representation of Africa.
>

I never realised that Africans respawn. Something new every day!

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deKay

Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:

> All the same I thought I might as well get another game, so it's ended
> up as AC1 by default. I just hope that it's not sufficiently flawed to
> put me off playing AC2. :-)
>

It's a decent game, just a bit fiddly and repetitive.

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gunthergloop

On 03/12/2011 12:05, deKay wrote:
> Russell Marks<russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> All the same I thought I might as well get another game, so it's ended
>> up as AC1 by default. I just hope that it's not sufficiently flawed to
>> put me off playing AC2. :-)
>>
>
> It's a decent game, just a bit fiddly and repetitive.
>

Personally I view the first two as beta releases. Assassin's Creed
Brotherhood I think is the first fully realised vision.

The first one is around v0.75. AC2 is more like 0.9, but it lacks the
fine-tunings of Brotherhood. By the end of both I had enough of them and
didn't feel like playing another one for some time.

I played Brotherhood and loved it all the way. Totally immersive
environment and gameplay. It does feel like "I'm back in 15th/16th
Century Rome here" at times. Well, up to a point obviously. Or not
necessarily close to the real thing, but it's certainly a believable
representation of the real thing surrounding a very enjoyable and
entertaining game.

I'd favour playing that first and dipping into the others as you see fit
thereafter. Then again you might find the 'looseness' of the first one
more enjoyable.

Up to you really -just noticed a slot and decided to stick my oar in.

Looking forward to Revelations. I'm being forced to wait til Christmas.

-Kevin.

gunthergloop

On 03/12/2011 22:00, Russell Marks wrote:
> gunthergloop<news1@keviSPAMNOnforde.com> wrote:
>
>> On 03/12/2011 12:05, deKay wrote:
>>> Russell Marks<russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All the same I thought I might as well get another game, so it's ended
>>>> up as AC1 by default. I just hope that it's not sufficiently flawed to
>>>> put me off playing AC2. :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's a decent game, just a bit fiddly and repetitive.
>
> I'm liking it a lot, though it is repetitive. In (semi-)retrospect it
> seems incredible that anyone would suggest simply skipping this one and
> starting on the second.
>

I wasn't saying skip it. I'd personally be more inclined to do the
better one first though. After playing the first one you might not be up
to playing the second, which could put you off the third... which is
head & shoulders above the other two as far as I'm concerned.

It'd be a shame not to play Brotherhood. Of course the first is
perfectly good too. Well maybe not perfectly..


>> I played Brotherhood and loved it all the way. Totally immersive
> [...]
>> I'd favour playing that first and dipping into the others as you see
>> fit thereafter. Then again you might find the 'looseness' of the first
>> one more enjoyable.
>
> Looseness?
>

Long after the more immediate reactions/ views on anything are forgotten
there lingers just a general feeling/ phrase/ word. I don't quite know
what I mean by looseness, but it's the word that comes to mind when
describing the first one in comparison to what came after. I'd have to
replay the first one to figure it out myself.


>> Up to you really -just noticed a slot and decided to stick my oar in.
>>
>> Looking forward to Revelations. I'm being forced to wait til Christmas.
>
> I'll be finishing AC1 first unless the repetition gets too annoying (I
> don't think it will), then I have AC2 coming at Christmas. Brotherhood
> and Revelations seem inevitable somewhen, but probably not for at least
> a few months yet.
>

Enjoy! I know I have.

-Kevin.

deKay

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Russell Marks wrote:

>> I wasn't saying skip it. I'd personally be more inclined to do the
>
> I know that's not quite what you were saying, I meant generally a lot of
> people do seem to say that. I'd even say it seems to be the consensus,
> that's why I'd originally planned to start with AC2.

Nah, do AC1 first.

I did, and then didn't fancy AC2 as I didn't think AC1 was quite bood
enought for more of the same. Someone convinced me, and I saw AC2 cheap
earlier this year, and loved it. I then started on Brotherhood soon after
completing 2, and am loving that. Hopefully in the new year I'll be able
to pick up Revelations for teh cheeps.

Also, playing AC1 first helps make more sense of some of the AC2 story, of
course.

> Hmm, maybe the climbing. It's not hard to imagine it feeling more fluid
> in the later games, and it does get slightly... not stuck exactly, but
> sometimes you have to sort of slowly convince it to do the right thing.

There's still a bit of that in Brotherhood, but the roof
scrambling/parkour stuff seems much improved.

deKay
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deKay

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Russell Marks wrote:

> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Nah, do AC1 first.
>
> As I say, I will do. I've already done five of the nine hits I think,
> despite doing all the optional stuff except collectibles, so even with
> any twists or extra bits (which there will surely be) I ought to be
> finished by Christmas.
>
>> I did, and then didn't fancy AC2 as I didn't think AC1 was quite bood
>> enought for more of the same.
>
> Interesting. I think even if the second were "only" as good as the first
> I'd still play it (though I'd certainly leave it a bit longer). I wonder
> if I'm liking AC1 more than most people did. :-)

FWIW, I've just completed Brotherhood. Tis awesomes.

deKay
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